To the San Carlos Apache Tribe, the 740-acre swath of oak groves and sheer cliffs is sacred ground, a place. This tall old growth forrest of spruce, fir, and corkbark not only provides a unique ecosystem, but is a sacred land for the San Carlos Apache Indians. Graham: Apaches and Astrophysical Development in Arizona | Cultural Survival. The Fight for Dzil Nchaa Si An, Mt. <, Brandt, Elizabeth. Throughout the region of Arizona where the Apache lived, there are only two tribes that lived in territories that surrounded Mount Graham. A Final Stand Seeks To Save Holy Apache Land In Arizona's High Desert. Another group installed a telescope it nicknamed Lucifer. Graham, critics wonder are the 'evil ones' planning a staged end times scenario The University of Arizona, together with the Vatican and Jesuit Order, announced Back in 2010, the University of Arizona, . by Greg Szymanski, JD, ArcticBeacon.com, April 23, 2010 Published here: Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 5:10 AM University of Arizona, Vatican and Jesuits Name New Telescope 'Lucifer' Housed at Mt. 2012. The protection of the ecosystem remains crucially important to the San Carlos Apache because it is known as a place for collecting important medicinal plants, and preforming a variety of ceremonies important to their religious traditions. The partial phase of the eclipse begins at 10:34 p.m. Totality begins at 11:41 p.m. and lasts until 12:44 a.m. So the Vatican has an observatory in Arizona, that is next to Lucifer which is NOT part of the Vatican Observatory as others have claimed. Early Masonic magicians like Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, and Newton, along with their modern Masonic astro-not counter-parts like Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins, hand-in-hand with NASA and world Freemasonry using everything from books, magazines, and television to computer-generated imaging, have succeeded, in the minds of the masses, to pick up the fixed Earth, shape it into a ball, spin it in circles, and throw it around the Sun! These early traditions of the Observatory reached their climax in the mid-nineteenth century with research conducted at the Roman College by the famous Jesuit, Father Angelo Secchi, the first to classify stars according to their spectra. Both observing time and responsibility for VATT are shared with the University of Arizona on a 75% VORG, 25 % Arizona basis. With the environmental and cultural concerns circumvented, UA proceeded to ignore and discredit the San Carlos Apaches claim to the mountain as a sacred place. Pray for Arizonas Mount Graham During National Sacred Places Prayer Days. Indian Country Today Media Network.com. Apache-Sitgreaves Observatory is a private facility about 60 miles east of Payson that offers viewing programs by reservation only. In a solemn audience, held on 10 November 1979 before the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the College of Cardinals and the Diplomatic Corps to the Holy See, to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the birth of Albert Einstein, John Paul II requested that theologians, scholars and historians, animated by a spirit of sincere collaboration, will study the Galileo case more deeply This desire was concretized in the constitution by the Pope in July 1981 of a commission to coordinate the research of theologians, scientists and historians which would help to further clarify the events which occurred between Galileo and the Church and, more generally, the Ptolemaic Copernican controversy of the 16th and 17th centuries in which the Galileo affair is situated. It is also a landscape of enormous biological diversity, home to the endangered Mount Graham red squirrel. VATT is part of the Mount Graham International Observatory situated on Mount Graham in southeast Arizona, and is operated by the Vatican Observatory, one of the oldest astronomical research institutions in the world, in partnership with The University of Arizona. It would certainly destroy the doctrinal principles of religions which have sprung off the theoretical foundation that Lucifer is the devil especially those which deem their leaders infallible. It is noted on the website that its official abbreviation has been changed to LUCI. Additional Information on telescope specifications, Additional instrumentation & Science Operations. The people of these tribes were mixed with other Apache tribes when placed on reservations in the 1800s, but have slowly made their way back to their native lands and have distinct cultural and religious backgrounds. Details: apache-sitgreaves.org, 480-221-9738. The VATT is a Gregorian telescope, a type of reflecting telescope designed by Scottish mathematician and astronomer, James Gregory, in the seventeenth century. The Vatican Observatory does not own each piece of equipment, nor can it give official names or nicknames to things it does not own. The Vatican, the Jesuits and the University of Arizona, unveiled a new telescope centered upon Apache sacred ground, on Mount Graham, in Arizona. An Apache activist dancer performs in a rally to save Oak Flat, land near Superior, Ariz., sacred to Western Apache tribes, in front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington, Tuesday, July 22, 2015. Graham possesses such a sacred character which precludes responsible and legitimate use of the land" (Swanner 2015: 157). as holy land & it is believed there's a portal or star gate there 01 Mar 2023 11:50:59 The Vatican Observatory shares space (no pun intended) with other organizations and groups. * what causes them to move at all? What is to become of these state treasures is anyone's guess. Secchi is often referred to as the Father of Modern Astrophysics and his technique remains important in modern research. In 1988, they succeeded in getting Congress to attach a rider to the Arizona-Idaho Conservation Act which exempted the first 3 telescopes from any restrictions in the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) and the Endangered Species Act (ESA). Was there an ulterior motive behind this? Firstly, what causes anything to hover? Graham in Tucson. Original: Mar 12, 2013. Its a telescope built by the Max Planck Institute for extraterrestrial physics and according to their website it stands for LBT Near Infrared Spectroscopic Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research. In southern Arizona, the proposed site of a new mine is pitting the mining company, Resolution Cooper, against the San Carlos Apache people. ! Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! The Observatory is one of the oldest astronomical institutes in the world. However, Ohio State and Notre Dame have joined the project (selling viewing time at $30,000/night) and now the University of Minnesota and the University of Virginia are considering investing in the project. The theory that the character Lucifer is Hasatan has been a popular one in Christianity dating as far back as the 4th century. I KNOW that. Web. In 1984, the University of Arizona and the Vatican selected Mount Graham as a site for a complex of 18 telescopes. Nevertheless, Congress approved the construction plan. Native species like the Mount Graham red squirrel cling to survival in the forests. The Vatican did not name a telescope Lucifer. All pictures, and stories of space come from NASA, yet little is heard from Vatican observatories as to their conclusions as to what their most sophisticated telescopes are finding. At 10,720 feet above sea level, it dominates the otherwise flat landscape in southeastern Arizonas Gila River Valley. But you cant even pull an example of convex water out of that hat Seriously. Photo by David Harvey / National Science Foundation Web. Sign up for Storyblocks at http://storyblocks.com/haiGet a Half as Interesting t-shirt: https://standard.tv/collections/half-as-interesting Suggest a video: . Evil is evil. Would the Wormwood star be involved? Photo by Claire Cummings.) Im patient. With the following day a holiday for many people, this may be a good time to watch this eclipse. Ola Cassadore Davis, Apache Survival Coalition, PO Box 1237, San Carlos, AZ 85550; (520) 475-2543. Vatican builds a giant telescope and names it ''LUCIFER'' The Vatican, the Jesuits and the University of Arizona, unveiled a new telescope centered upon Apache sacred ground, on Mount Graham, in Arizona. Strange for an organization who was adamant of a geocentric universe. Currently the observatory remains as a working scientific research area that has been awaiting renewal for a permit since April of 2009. Could there be more to this story? Measuring 1.83 m (6 ft 0 in) wide, the telescope achieved its first light in 1993. Another group installed a telescope it nicknamed Lucifer. Located on Mt. Sonoita. One of those groups installed a telescope and briefly nicknamed one of its attachments "Lucifer" in. Notice, the Master says I saw Satan not I saw Lucifer/Haylel etc. Mount Graham was one of the first parcels to be placed in the public domain. And not only within Christianity has this idea attained popularity, but within various occultist groups, particularly Satanism and Luciferianism, Satan and Lucifer are commonly used interchangeably. In reaction to this decision, biologists, botanists, and environmentalists openly opposed the project, arguing that the Mount Graham ecosystem is extremely important to the species living there and that many of these species were already struggling to survive. How does that work on a spinning ball? * how can the sun and moon can hover at a fixed distance above FE? The spiritual value of Mount Graham to the Apache was not considered. The entire mountain and the watersheds that emanate from it should be listed as the traditional cultural property of the Apache. It served not only home to their guardian spirits, but also is an ancient burial site. Your email address will not be published. Reservations were established by executive orders in 1871 through 1874, but Welch said the ordersneverreferencedthe treaty that enabled theircreation. From that time and with some degree of continuity the Holy See has manifested an interest in and support for astronomical research. The Large Binocular Telescope which is not affiliated with the Vatican Observatory is a pair of 8.4m telescopes side by side. Prior to the construction of the Vatican Observatory, Mount Graham was one of the last untouched monuments that embodied sacred energy for the San Carlos Apache. [] Vue Intrieure du Telescope du Vatican L.U.C.I.F.E.R.. Graham was not sacred because it lacked religious shrines. In 1852, the U.S. and "the Apache Nation of Indians" signed the Treaty of Santa Fe, said John Welch, a professor at Simon Fraser University and head of landscape and site protection programs at Archaeology Southwest. In spite of this, 2 telescopes have been built and a third is scheduled for completion in 2004. The partial phase ends at 1:51 a.m. Home Podcasts Start listening View podcast show Save for later Create a list Download to app On July 10, 1990, the San Carlos Apache Tribal Council passed its first of eight resolutions in opposition to use of their sacred site and of their sacred mountain by astronomers. They allegedly crucified and burned at the stake heretics like Bruno, and exiled Galileo, for their trying to prove that the Sun was center of our solar system, not the Earth. Protesters against Mt. While construction of the projects first phase has continued, the entire Mount Graham mountain range was declared eligible for listing on the National Register of Historic Places as a traditional cultural property in July 2001. They both have a path that each travels over a years time that has been documented and remains predictable, just as it has been for millennia. 3.) "House Votes to Sell Apache Land to Foreign Corporation, Tribe Is . Can anybody say tradition? Below are links to the optical and instrument specifications to assist observers. Many of us came to accept the idea that Lucifer was hasatan long before ever reading the one verse in Isa 14:12, the only place in the Bible which mentions Lucifer. 2.) Follow her on Twitter at @debkrol. The verse they cited, which allegedly corresponds with Isa 14:12, Luke 10:18, does not quote Isa 14:12, nor does it say Lucifer, Haylel, or any of the like. With these rich traditions as a basis and in order to counteract the longstanding accusations of hostility of the Church towards science, Pope Leo XIII in his Motu Proprio Ut Mysticam of 14 March 1891 formally refounded the Vatican Observatory and located it on a hillside behind the dome of St. Peters Basilica. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. The National Optical Astronomy Observatories rejected Mount Graham years ago. I always thought that was just a tad weird, [] wolves calculate that one! University of Arizona, Vatican and Jesuits Name New Telescope 'Lucifer' Housed at Mt. Indian Country Today Media Network, LLC, 18 June 2012. The Mauna Kea TMT another Desecration of Sacred Hawaiian Land | Kauilapele's Blog. * how can they shift their movements into larger and smaller diameter paths? L.U.C.I.F.E.R., which stands for Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research, is a chilled instrument attached to a telescope in Arizona. He mathematically proved it. Public events include our Monday Night Lecture Series, world-reknowned Astronomy Camp and Mt Lemmon Sky Center. Due to Arizona's high elevation and clear skies, the VATT is just one among dozens of telescopes located in the state; as the Vatican Observatory website reports, Arizona is "where sky conditions are among the best in the world, and . Your third question is answered in my first explanation. Despite this proliferation, printing centres soon emerged; thus, one third of the Italian printers published in. #24 Why Did So Many Apollo Astronots Die Mysterious Deaths in Just Three YearsTime? Find telescopes and instruments, telescope time applications, staff and mountain contacts, and faculty and staff scientific interests. In this "prayer proposal" the indigenous people needed to disclose the specific time and place they planned on praying. Conditions on the mountain have changed substantially since the permit was first granted and the observatory is even less compatible with the ecological and religious importance of Mount Graham. You have no knowledge of the place you are about to destroy, said Franklin Stanley, San Carlos medicine man, in a 1992 declaration. Show Dangerous World Podcast, Ep 345. I took astronomy in college and it is not possible for the planets to move in the sky the way they do without the sun being the center of our solar system. They do shift, we know this from simple observation. almost. The Vatican Telescope - formally known as the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope - is located not within the Vatican, but in Arizona! The theory that the character Lucifer is Hasatan has been a popular one in Christianity dating as far back as the 4th century. Wouldnt it be mind blowing to find out that the character Lucifer wasnt hasatan or the devil? You CANNOT find convex water. Grasslands & Sabino Canyon Observatory. Graham was not sacred because it lacked religious shrines. They burned books and writings of other cultures as their ships circumnavigated the globe raping and pillaging other cultures riches. So definitively Lucifer and Haylel have the same meaning (implicitly), however there is one major problem. Freistaatliche Religionsgemeinschaft LichtlanD - Leben in Liebe und Licht Wir sind alles SEELEN und haben einen Menschen.. 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