Babies due June 26, 2011 I also did estrogen priming with the mini. I had success on an EPP. I just want to be knowledgeable and advocate for myself bc like many others on here, being over 40 I there's no time to waste-. I know you ladies all have your own stuff going on and I feel terrible asking but I dont know who else to askBarb, penny, joy, anyone else, Ive read that an estrogen priming protocol is good for DOR women, do you know if this is true? That patients must use an hCG trigger they cannot use Lupron as a trigger (because theyre already taking it) which is problematic because Lupron is the only trigger shot that fends off OHSS. Estrogen Priming Protocol- EPP Experiences. Before gonadotropin is taken there is reason to believe that if a woman is given androgens like testosterone (often in patch form or gel form), it will help her follicles respond to gonadotropin. I hope you like the protocol. They said they would put me in the 21 day long protocol. I would be doing a low stim protocol with estrogen priming. Baby boy born May 2, 2013, Full details are now in my profile "About Me" page. Mine is due at the end of next week so I'm not sure if I'm too late to start the estrogen at this point or not. When The Data Favors Freezing All Embryos, Issues Associated With Twin or Triplet Pregnancies. 14 retrieved, 9 mature, 5 fertilized normally, 2 grew to the 2-cell stage then arrested, 3 did not grow beyond one cell. Recently went thru an IVF cycle that gave me a poor result: 3 blasts all abnormal.RE suggested BCP for 21 days followed by lupron. There are two types of gonadotropin FSH and LH and most data shows you need both during an IVF cycle. A gonadotropin-releasing antagonist hormone (GnRH-ant) is used to stop the ovaries from releasing the matured eggs and allows time for additional maturation until eggs are retrieved for fertilization. :-/. One thing to keep in mind is that every cycle, there is a new cohort of follicles availble to be stimulated, meaning that during different months the same protocol may work more successfully than others simply due to the natural variation in available follicles. To bridge that gap, doctors prescribe drugs that woman take at the start of a cycle to instigate growth of ovarian follicles that contain eggs. What To Do When PGT-A & Grading Results Conflict? Interesting that they are only putting you on it for 7 days.. Or are there different levels of this? Good luck & stay positive!! You are posting as a Guest without being logged in. Hottest Topics -- Last 30 Days As we show in the example below, during every step of IVF a certain number of eggs or embryos are lost, especially in the middle part of the funnel (growing embryos that are chromosomally normal). I will probably stim for 12-13 days! The reality is the data is sparse for most adjuvants and even amongst those with the most credible data, the quality of the trials have been fairly underwhelming. This time she is switching me to EPP w/ 100 Follistim/150 Menopur. IVF#2 started sept 19th Did not cover diagnostics like doppler test (40 copay but insurance might have covered this), communicable testing ($400 per person), and specialty meds . And I think EPP is the standard at CCRM as well for DOR ladies. More than I wanted, I think! You can be assured it is a good protocol. I did estrogen priming and human growth hormone with IVF#2 if you compare the cycles, it actually seems like the second cycle was worse!! Thanks so much! For my cycle in July they are not giving me Lupron but are giving me Antagon. This drugs known as the trigger shot. The meds alone cost $5,400. As you can see below, amongst women with PCOS, the Antagonist protocol drives comparable success rates but with far lower risk of hyperstimulation. Im on this for 21 days starting on cycle day 1. Had two follicles but one disappeared day of egg retrieval. If you did it did you have success, what is your situation, did you do pills or patches and for how long, etc.? Both were immature. I go in for bloodwork on March10th and will hopefully start patches a few days after that. This amounts typically to a Coke vs. Pepsi kind of decision. Another set of investigators looked at a variation of the same question. Long time reader, first time poster. The data supporting the use of growth hormone in poor responders leading up to gonadotropin use is more convincing. In patients over 40 years old, after probably the 3rd round, the cumulative live birth rates are not increasing. That could be why they are decreasing your Follistim too. This is standard practice when ordering from Ukraine, according to customers wh. The dose of gonadotropin matters because, generally speaking, if too little is prescribed, too few eggs are retrieved, and IVF success rates go down. 10 retrieved, 6 mature, 6 fertilized (half with ICSI), transferred two 8-cell embryos on day three (both with moderate fragmentation, graded B and C-), the four remaining arrested by day 5. Started doing the patches 10 days before my period was scheduled to start. Then I started stims on a Friday. Of course, during a regular cycle most women naturally produce only a single mature egg. I started epp with cetrotide x 3 days. The first question is naturally, which protocol is more likely to deliver a baby, and when investigators looked at the two most popular strategies, Long Agonist and Antagonist, it became clear both were equally effective in the general IVF population. It's a horrifyingly traumatic experience. This was my worst cycle ever only yielding 2 retrieved follicles that did not fertilize. Associate Director, REI Twins & Multiples: Your Tentative Time Table. Join Tomato Lovers & Participate in the Ukrainian Tribute Growout! Estrogen priming attempt #1, late December 2019: during the luteal phase of that now IUI cycle, I took oral estrogen. 6 responded, 5 retrieved, 3 fertilized normally, put all 3 back in at 3dpt - I am currently 27 weeks with one baby girl. As you may recall in the Revelli and Yousef studies, 150 IUs per day of gonadotropin were used, which is well higher than most things marketed as mini-stimulation approaches, and any natural (no gonadotropin) approach. Froze 3. I felt icky too the first day of starting estrace but I think it's also because they put me on a zpac to kill any infections and that made me sick my fingers are crossed that your period doesn't come and you can start cycling. We ended up refinancing our home and getting help from family. Experience with Estrogen Priming Protocol? However, given some of the additional features for each protocol (for example, the duration of suppression), some patients might find one preferable to the others. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. Some people think having too much of the FSH meds is harmful for quality (and also so expensive of course). A fundamental question is whether protocols using a lower dose of gonadotropins do as well as those using a higher dose of gonadotropins. After seven long years consumed by infertility I am finally moving forward, wishing my son was with me, but grateful for the two children I have here with me. Wow that did make a huge difference for you! We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. To conclude, in the group of patients . Hey Michelle, you should never feel bad to ask! Was wonderin, I just finished my 3rd failed IVF cycle using EPP. It is used on lowish amh patients and those who respond poorly to drugs which affect their lining. I did estrogen priming after my first Ivf cycle ended in mc (nothing to freeze) & my 2nd cycle was canceled bc I wasn't responding well to stims. Ivf doctor recommendation in nyc or bklyn, Low Ovarian Reserve and Poor Responder to IVF, Ladies 45 and older TTC - *infertility due to age only*. Check out this video to learn more about the. TTC with DOR (Diminished Ovarian Reserve), the most helpful and trustworthy pregnancy and parenting information. FertilitySmarts is a part of Janalta Interactive. He did say there are some studies that DHEA and CoQ10 could help, but the, Hi all. Dont know what. As we discussed there are drugs that stimulate follicles to grow, suppress the follicles ability to release their eggs, and then help catalyze the follicles to mature their eggs so they can be retrieved. I'm not sure what your stats are, but Check seems to have had some good success with women over 40 who have high FSH, so I'd say go with him. Recent Topics I was recently on micro dose EP protocol and while I had sleepy follicles wake up, they didnt grow. President, ASRM Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, Medical Director, REI How many follicles were you usually starting with? Ultimately there are two protocol strategies doctors will use: either the Long Agonist or Antagonist protocols. I was at the max stim dose to get the response I did. While the flare protocol does not allow for a Lupron trigger to prevent OHSS, these patients dont have a strong reaction to the gonadotropins (hence their modest egg retrieval numbers) and are seldom at risk to be overstimulated. Collection was yesterday and they retrieved 9 eggs. Editorial Review Policy. you are not supposed to TTC on the cycle you will be doing the EPP because of the ganirelix. Estrogen Priming Protocol: For some women, especially for those who have diminished ovarian reserve, it becomes necessary to help the response to the Antagonist protocol. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282. Implantation Calendar: What is Happening During the Two Week Wait. I am on my 4th now. Surprise spontaneous just 7 months postpartum while still breastfeeding!!! Transfer was canceled. The OOP meds program here at the Bump also was a life saver as we got meds for our 4th and 5th tries. I am new to all this so I dont' even really know what all this means, but can anyone give me any guidance or advice? 1st IVF/ICSI age 41 : Gonal F 300; 3 eggs; 2 fertilised; transfer day 5; BFN I dont know as much about micro flare. It is so hard to be hopeful after 3 failed attempts. Fortunately, there are a few steps you can take to prevent and. BFP oct 16th!!! Hope you feel better soon! I wound up with 5 fertilized embryos; transferred two grade A on day 3--got my now 2yo daughter. it's 1 week since last patch. View Full Term. I hope a tweak of the protocol will help or maybe it was just an off cycle for me. I have AMH of 0.1 or something like that. Thanks so much! Specifically, poor responders (a less than pleasant way of referring to women who produce few eggs per retrieval), do equally well taking 150 IUs of gonadotropin as 450 IUs. He also said he would start with BCPs to suppress ovulation- he explained why, but at my age that just doesn't sound like a good idea to be suppressing anything. I started my estrace this morning and feel a little icky so far. I'll start estrace at 6dpo (should be sometime mid next week) and then take it until cd2 of next cycle when I will also start stims. Estrogen Priming is completely different, so therefore without birth control pill. IVF#4 November 2009 - one embryo survived to day 3 transfer - BFN . Estrogen Priming is completely different, so therefore without birth control pill.I would ask your doctor, but I guess you just do nothing while preparing for the cycle. DOR does suck, but you can still be successful! 05/18/2018 23:18 Subject : Protocol . From what I've seen on the boards, ladies get a higher number and higher quality. Had three chromosomal miscarriages last year, moved on to IVF with intention of genetic testing but had to cancel cycle a few days in, E2 never got above 36 while on max dose of 300 Gonol f and 300 Menopur. Another gardener is pla. So it's a low dose of Lupron, but not necessarily low doses of stims overall. By clicking sign up, you agree to receive emails from FertilitySmarts and agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. By continuing to browse our site you agree to our use of data and cookies. As a result, a woman needs to start the process with many eggs. I understand why they want to suppress ovulation but it just doesn't seem like a good idea in someone over 40? we did another one without BCPs and that also failed. This clinic is more generous with freezing, so they tested and froze a few other blasts as well, which the other clinic would have thrown out. Had three chromosomal miscarriages last year, moved on to IVF with intention of genetic testing but had to cancel cycle a few days in, E2 never got above 36 while on max dose of 300 Gonol f and 300 Menopur. With this you get results by day-3 and can transfer embryos at that time. Most of the costs are for the ER visit, tests, and lab work from my night in the hospital and the weeks following. However, the data doesnt bare that out. The doctor just wants to make sure you dont release an egg while getting your body ready for a retrieval or transfer. Those 2 were my worst cycles. Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. After being on BCPs for so long, it took a long time for my period to come back (it's been 5 years though now), but my cycle has still never been the same so I'm wary of BCPs. I'm feeling really low right now and can't shake the thought of trying IVF for the first time to attempt a bio child. Yes, I did antagonist for IVF 1, 2 and 3. In my case, antral follicle count is very poor, but RE decides to proceed. I'm 35 and going through my first IVF cycle. Back to home page. I am about to embark on my IVF#6 cycle (1st time at CCRM)- I've always done OCP/BCP before my IVF stim cycle(antagonist) and have produced between 15-19 eggs each time. It's that time of year again when gardeners all over the world are planning what to grow in their gardens. FertilitySmarts Inc. - Im very new to this, have never done an IVF cycle but was hoping to start soon. I'm now 19 wks pregnant with #2 from embryo from same batch. Good luck! We use cookies to improve your experience on this website and so that ads you see online can be tailored to your online browsing interests. You are posting as a Guest without being logged in. They monitor the follicle size and u do the trigger still so the know when to retrieve. Anyhow, do you know how what they wanted the priming to do? Has anyone else had this, Hi peeps. These drugs help a woman grow multiple follicles, and thus multiple mature eggs. Was one of my worst cycles. We're also doing PGS. [lcurtis8] For my first IVF they had me on Lupron. By and large there are two easy ways to think about protocols: how much gonadotropin (the drug that prompts follicles to grow) gets used, and what other drugs get used alongside the gonadotropin which is typically what defines a given protocol strategy. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. I used two patches a dayandchanged the patches every third day. RE put me on Estrogen priming protocol, and I am on Lupron and Cetrotide as well.On Friday, (cycle day 6) the newer nurse thought she saw 11 follicles.. ranging from 5mm to 9mm.. now, Cycle day 9, the other nurse, who has been there forever, saw only 5 and she had a hard time locating my other ovary. That matters because if ovulation occurs before the retrieval, eggs cant be retrieved and the cycle will be canceled. There are a number of drugs that can be tacked onto the beginning of a cycle that may increase the odds of success. I might have ovulated rather than had empty follicles. My first IVF cycle I was on the antagonist with stims started on Day 3.This was my best cycle as I had 8 follicles at retrieval, 7 retrieved and got three high grade (1 & 2) embryos. This helps to improve the outcome of the IVF cycle in patients who respond poorly to traditional IVF protocols. Infertility Support Community in Partnership with RESOLVE. Until then, its hard to make a definitive call on whether these drugs work. This is caused by insufficient potassium reaching the fruit due to environmental factors such as high air/soil temperatures and overcast skies or heavy fruit load on plants with lower organic matter content in their soils. Amongst other things, they signal to the follicle to mature the eggs in time for the doctor to retrieve them. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our. The protocol can also be preceded by the use of BCPs even if you have DOR. Our mission is to be a trusted partner in helping you understand your reproductive health and to support and empower the choices you make along the way. IVF #5 was EPP and HGH. I had success with EPP after failing with other protocols. This is done by administering estrogen, typically via an estrogen patch or an injection, sometimes along with additional Gonadotropin-releasing hormone. Our first cycles sound pretty similar. What affect did the epp have on your follicles? I am anxious to see if my dr recommends it. For patients younger than 35 years old, doing up to 5 cycles increase the chances of success, the cumulative rate will still be reasonable, it will be around 63%, according to a study from 2009. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you as I see you just did an IUI. My doctor will add human growth hormone during stims. 1) focus on the quality (not quantity) of eggs. Patients using EPP exhibited similar clinical PRs (21.5% vs. 21.4%) and live birth rates (15.0% vs. 15.3%) per started cycle. Have questions about navigating your Inspire support community or need assistance from one of our Inspire Moderators? As a result, its hard to correct for confounders like the fact that harder cases may (or in our minds, probably) had been given more drug and so the underlying condition, rather than the dose taken, contributed to the lower rates of success. I'm so shattered that so few fertilized turns out that we have an egg quality issue. A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. I am, Hi Ladies! Estrogen/androgen priming protocol improves egg quality and . IVF #1, we did Follistim, Menopur, Cetrotide. In some cases, priming may not be required. I'm starting with this IUI and then will see how I respond and move forward from there. Sign up now for your monthly dose of fertility info, experiences, and insight. This protocol is used almost exclusively in women whove had a poor response in a previous cycle or who have evidence of diminished ovarian reserve (AMH less than 0.5 or an AFC less than 5). Typically, a poor responder is someone who meets two of three criteria: they have collected three or fewer eggs on a previous cycle, is over age 40, or who has a diminished ovarian reserve (antral follicle count below 5 or an AMH below below 0.5). The results are below and as you can see, success rates do seem to drop off after 300 IUs per day of gonadotropin. I sounds like a good plan since the first protocol didn't work out so great. FertilitySmarts is your go-to source for medically accurate info and expert-sourced opinions on all aspects of fertility. | Contributor. I mean, you might be lucky. Spandorfer said it would not suppress me to much not sure about this, need to speak with him further. Also, your stims are actually a lot higher than most REs will do for DOR. Natural cycle is no meds to stim so u get 1 egg at best. Best of luck choosing. We are going to bump up my gonal f too. Lets start with how much gonadotropin to take. Estrogen Priming protocol does not have birth control pills. Anyone with very low AMH do the estrogen priming and have a good response? Estrogen Priming Protocol- EPP Experiences - Infertility Inspire Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility at 40+ Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility Support Community in Partnership with RESOLVE Join Inspire Create a Post Estrogen Priming Protocol- EPP Experiences drgolfermd Aug 14, 2015 4:53 AM Dear All: Transfer was canceled. You currently have javascript disabled. I would ask your doctor, but I guess you just do nothing while preparing for the cycle. I did EPP, using a climara patch every other day starting day 8 after ovulation until period came. On CD2 I started 300 Gonal F and 150 Menopur. Clomid is cheap, easy to take (oral), drives less risk of OHSS, but is less effective. If you feel a message or content violates these standards and would like to request its removal please submit the following information and our moderating team will respond shortly. I starts on day 1 of my cycle for 25-26 days of estrace.. Not sure why.. undefined will no longer be visible to you including posts, replies, and photos. So, I'm 39 with Amh of 0.07 (undetectable) and FSH of 9. Doing mild IVF - and wondering how that is going to work as the test today was that i only had one follicle visible - Any idea what to expect? A flare cycle may involve OCP or estrogen-only pretreatment, but the key is that a GnRH agonist (Lupron, Suprefact, or Synarel) will be started at exactly the same time as the stimulating medication. My friends did this estrogen priming protocol and highly recommend it and were successful. In some cases, a combination of both types of triggers may be used. Estrogen is administered during the luteal phase of the previous menstrual cycle to "prime" the FSH receptors which enhances the response to FSH. They suppress leading up to your cycle so that when you start the meds you get a group of follicles to grow together. Northwestern Medicine. We're not even 100% sure we are staying with my current clinic but I wanted to research ahead of time either way. Comparing the good cycle to the other 3, I see why. Below is an oversimplified way to visualize this. I did that back in the beginning of the year but I ovulated in my own and terrified it might happen again. Mar 15, 2011 #2. Estrogen priming has worked both times for me. Around 50-60% of couples find success with IUI after 5 cycles, which is about a 10-20% success rate per cycle. (51.2% vs 25%; p = 0.047) were noted. SG usually sticks to their protocol for the first round, then if it fails, they'll start customizing. They are generally used for suppression in Long Lupron Protocols. My second included BCP before stimulating and I didnt stimulate well. I will have retrieval hopefully this weekend and will let you know what happens. I'd love to hear from women of "advanced (advanced !) my RE is going back to the drawing board for my final IVF. However, the study has two major shortcomings and for that reason most experts arent ready to concede that rates of gonadotropin over 300 IUs per day is harmful. I just had my ER last week: . Avery & Sydney born June 12/11 at 30w1d. I will be doing an FET in March/April, I started taking 4mg of estrace on cd 21. I am interested in hearing from women who have never tried to get pregnant and therefore do not have any specific infertility issue per se, other than age. Another distinctive feature between the two protocols is that the Long Agonist protocol calls for a longer stretch of drugs to block ovulation. Here's what you need to know about the project. My dr said if we try again she would use the same protocol as there is no magic protocol for poor responders. E2 level 96.4. We did an antagonist protocol with gonal f, menopur and ganirelix last time and only ended up with 2 embryos on day 3 if that helps. Take a look at the data below published on roughly 1,000 fresh transfers and 1,000 frozen transfers. . Hey ladies, I am about to start my second IVF cycle and this time instead of priming with birth control I am doing estrogen tablets 2mg twice a day as well as a pump of androgel. to keep trying as well as using our FSA max 3 years in a row. Cetrotide was added CD9. IVF #2, we did estrogen priming, Follistim, Menopur, Tev Tropin (human growth hormone), Cetrotide. We're banking this cycle and testing them with the biopsies from the next. Hi @cmugnolo, you have a similar situation to mine perhaps. I am praying this makes a huge difference. I then did 450 gonal-F and 150 menopur for 12 or 13 days, using ganirelix as well. There are several methods of pre-treatment that involves using either a combined oral contraceptive pill, progestogen or estrogen. DH: 36 Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. I think if I hadn't EPP, I wouldn't have had to stim so high. For IVF #1 I did BCP followed by 150 follistim/150 menopur and I ended up with 31 eggs but the quality wasn't great. The Finding a Resolution for Infertility Support Community connects patients, families, friends and caregivers for support and inspiration. think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. that cycled failed. Do they use this protocol as sort of standard for someone who is starting? Heres an example from the same study. mcg/day) and estrogen priming is started [Estradiol patches 50 mg 2X/week and Estradiol Valerate (Progynova) 4 mg, o., bd., which is continued until the human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) trigger day]. Below is a meta-analysis of 17 (relatively small) studies that, taken together, show the strategies have nearly identical pregnancy rates. I am scheduled to take estrace 7 days after ovulation coming up (the cycle before) presumably for about 7 days until next cycle Not sure why you would do prometrium before you cycle? We use data about you for a number of purposes explained in the links below. It all depends on your tests and what specific information they have for you. Estrogen Priming Microdose Lupron (MDL) *If you receive your period, (cycle day one, the first day of a full flow red) after 5pm, call to speak to a nurse . Now this is a guesstimated number. But I am sure they know what they are doing at CCRM. Good luck. The #1 app for tracking pregnancy and baby growth. This drug works indirectly by prompting the brain to produce more gonadotropin to signal the ovaries to grow follicles -- so it's not directly stimulating the ovary. I tried it and it seemed to help with even follicle growth but so some reason I had less eggs in the follicles than prior cycle when I was on bcp first? Again, gonadotropin is the injectable hormone that prompts a higher number of follicles, and thus eggs, to grow at any one time. Though I had 4 or 5 follicles to begin with, only ended . Anyhoo, I am just curious whose done this and what the difference was in terms of their egg numbers and quality.especially if anyone used it for quality. Dwarf Mr Snow, Fred's Tie Dye, Saucy Mary, Sweet Scarlet, Kangaroo Paw Green, Idaho Gem and Banana Toes are just a few of the varieties one gardener is growing in a 4x8 bed of "bulletproof" tomatoes. Estrogen priming is pretty standard for over 40. Polyspermy refers to the fertilization of one egg with multiple sperm cells that result in the formation of an embryo with abnormal sets of chromosomes. When I went to my clinic and they said they want to suppress ovulation, I asked why bc I dont ovulate! Ugh, that made me feel like I was hit by a truck. My body seemed to appreciate the extra estrogen. 14 retrieved, Initial was 12. Went to retrieval anyway, did ICSI, but it didn't fertilize. Find other members in this community to connect with. But I also realize I'm not a dr and should probably listen to their advice! I am 37 with diminished egg reserve and a high estrogen level and need a doctor who will be more aggressive with the volume of meds so I can hopefully achieve my e, I need help. After 5 days of estrogen priming Follitropin alpha (Gonal F, 600 IU/day, s.c.) is started. Really hope the next cycle goes well for you! I stimmed for 13 days. In my opinion, it's good to be at a place that uses it a lot. As a result, the Antagonist strategy is generally preferred for women at especially high risk of developing OHSS, namely women with PCOS, younger women, women with high AMH or AFCs, African American women, and those who produced a high number of eggs in a recent cycle. Estrogen priming refers to supplementing women with extra estrogen (estradiol) during the luteal phase - that's the last two weeks - of the prior menstrual cycle before beginning ovarian hyper-stimulation for IVF. I was on BCP for 15 years and when I went off them I never got my period. Create an account or log in to participate. I am planning on doing 2-3 cycles with banking and then CCS testing due to previous miscarriages. That data comes from an analysis of over 700,000 IVF cycles run by well-respected investigators at Stanford. Ideally, between 15 - 20 mature eggs would be retrieved, though getting a number that high is uncommon. Anyways, just wanted to mention that in case you want to ask your RE about it. 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